good i agree

People who marry n stay together is legal and those staying together without marriage is illegal thats wht is the mentality of todays ppl in india.. but people marry n liv together may not necessarily be as happy n in love as people staying together without marriage.. its not being practical but its individual's thinking whch matters the most.. people living like husband n wife and people who r actually husband n wife.. there is not much difference except the mangalsutra in ladies neck.. and comeon people.. wht do u think these bollywood stars do??

the bollywood famous stars also sleep with their coactors while outdoor shooting and fall in love with coactors inspite of getting married to someone else before.. where does their so called MORALS go then? these ppl are accepted by our society? why so? why such a distinguish? even these ppl get into live in relationships directly or indirectly.. i can list many ppl in bollywood or in our so called Respected society.. its a dirty world.. all i want to say is please for heaven sake let inidividual decide if he/she wants to stay inlive in relationship.. nothingwrong in it!!

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nice discussion Girish n Gopala..

I liked your points Girish...but I guess you missed my point and that is sometimes moral decision involves maturity...i donot how come you missed that point..."Sometimes maturity is not always moral. But many time moral things is always matured."

I donot say that you are wrong when you said "I however , or in fact i think no body else in this forum will agree to morals and maturity going hand in hand".. but i still believe that there are few in world..

Now a days after coming to ITIMES..I came to realise a dialogue said by AMITABH in movie BAGHBAN that" this generation has became practical".. yes I feel so..just my view..not against anyone.. I respect anyone views which are against mine.. but they give me chance to think from another person perspective..

I agree 50% on th complete post .... 100% for this paragraph "ccording to maturity yes you can have when you get chance and use condoms. Morally if you wanna virgin partner you mus not have and if you have it you must not expect virgin partner".
I however , or in fact i think no body else in this forum will agree to morals and maturity going hand in hand ! Simply because .... moral is all religion, culture, spirituality and belief based and maturity is reality,experience and knowledge based . I guess there are many others who would agree to me .
And yes very well said about saving money ... a damn easy way to way to say lots of money ... as far as room rent is concerned ! :-)

@Girish..I am happy to read your post and the way you criticized my post. That is what is needed here. It is discussion not arguments.

Now coming to maturity and morals. I am not a good speaker. Just will put in simple words as per my wisdom and talent.

Moral - Here live-relation and sex. using condoms and having sex is moral. Here live-in is due to love on each other

Maturity - Live-in without sex is 100% pure, respectable That is maturity. Here live-in is due to save money not love

Moral will tell you what type of live-in it is. Is it based on love or based on save money.

Maturity will tell you if need sex.

Sometimes maturity is not always moral. But many time moral things is always matured.

You said that you think it is wrong when I said moral values makes each person different. I am not arguing that if you feel it wrong then I am saying against. You have your valid reasons and I have mine so just want to put infront of you why I feel so

Going to call girl ( gentleman and respectable word for prostitute).

Maturity - Yes you can go but with condoms. This is justified.

Moral - What if I go and later I came to know that my partner also had sex relations with other man or men. Can I take it. If yes then go and never expect anything. If no, then you cannot go. This is moral
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Same in pre-martial sex. According to maturity yes you can have when you get chance and use condoms. Morally if you wanna virgin partner you mus not have and if you have it you must not expect virgin partner .Morally also we can justify having it but when it is that you are having with your fiancee or with your lover whom your are certain that marriage is going to take place and when you are not forcing your partner. This is moral and this is also matured not forcing them. So moral and maturity will many times go together

Here the writer just said live-in relation. But didnot say what is basis for ir..is it love or saving money

I hope this answered your question. Will be waiting for comments.
Since the writer asked to remove moral values so I said what I feel what is good when we remove moral thing and also put my points stating that we cannot do what writer insisted - notattach moral values

Supriyaji.. i read your reply and respect your views. I feel that you were good about yourself but abt ur daughter if cannot 100% accept.. it is easy to say but hard to do... i am sure you will also oppose her once you come to know abt her.. because .. whether you like it or not.. INDIAN origin.. let leave this topic here and let others do what ever they want and face what ever good and bad things they get in life because of their practical and modernized decisions.. but just one thing want to put in front of all.. when you do what you do.. donot expect too much your future full time partner which you cannot give them donot expect and question their decisions..these will lead to less breakups and less divorces..

Well Gopala I agree with wht u said.. but if my daughter comes to me in future saying she is in live in relationship then i wont mind it if the person she has chosen is perfect for her.. i myself wont mind being into live in relationship if my partner is good i knw n i knw for a fact he /she wont misuse me n dump me in future.. i knw for a fact my live in relation or my daughter's live in relation wud be long lasting and wud end up in marrying the same person with whom i or my daughter will stay in... so i find no problems with this.. n moral values are there m not showing any disrespect towards it too..

Supriya..i respect your views and I have few comments to make to just know what you think about them. You said line in is good if they are in love with each other... so what abt they are no love and stay together but have sex..then what abt that... if you say no..then i guess moral values issues comes and Sudhir doesnot want moral values...

Yes it is individual choices.. but we live in society... so does our choices doesnot impact society or atleast our family... .here it is to deal with moral values..read my post further to know why i raised it....

yes this is accepted globally...and why not india.. maybe because of culture and according to some educated open minded youth it is due to no maturity...

I said all above points since you said why India doesnot understand such issues and fail to understand each person.. frankly..please donot take me wrong.. once you grew old..you have daughter and in her young age..she will come tell you I am having live-in relationship.. then you will come to know what issues matter to Indians in that issue..

I will be waiting for your reply..