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Topic owner: Bhanu Negi: Lot of time politician fight against each other because of Babri problem thinking that is mosque or temple, but why did not people raise voice to build a hospital at that site, where people of all the religion can go.
As we know already, we gives enough place to God.Just use some place where people of all the religion can go,& we took full advantage of that place.
already we heard enough about that tregdy now people should pressurise gov to discuss about food security,employment,good governce like progeressive topic.
Will any hindu or muslim get specail advantage if we build mosque or temple there, which are already enough.Insted we build hospital, humankind will win..................................
As we know already, we gives enough place to God.Just use some place where people of all the religion can go,& we took full advantage of that place.
already we heard enough about that tregdy now people should pressurise gov to discuss about food security,employment,good governce like progeressive topic.
Will any hindu or muslim get specail advantage if we build mosque or temple there, which are already enough.Insted we build hospital, humankind will win..................................
Glo Peace
NEEDLESS 2 SAY, THE OTHER GROUPS CAN'T BE ABSOLVED OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE UNNECESSARY, COUNTER PRODUCTIVE DIVIDES
Glo Peace
Excuse the grammar here
You are taling about the future, but also confront the past associated with the site
This site was used as a bully uses issues to demand obeisance from others
A macho problem, like many assaulted Indians/Pakistanis abroad have experienced, as have very very many wives, victims of domestic violence around the world
To make me feel important, resurgent, others in smaller numbers have to bow down n admit me as superior, equal rights are outta the question
N that’s how this site has been used, as a shortcut to power,
Spread hate against those who disagree to give you the temple
And make it a rallying point to gather huge numbers of the overwhelmingly majority community around you and then ascend to the rightfully yours, God given throne
If you don’t hand over the site, we will bash you up, spread hate against you and grab it by force
While a peaceful, Abu Simble like solution (UN sponsored translocation of a mammoth Ancient Egyptian monument from the nu Aswan Dam’s water reserve) could have been easily found,
If asked gently, with tehzeeb, n by all sides, not just the extremists who’ve always propagated hate against you
But that would not have suited the seekers of God granted power
N the issue would have just disappeared, as would have they, n their extreme views, as also any justification for LeT etc in India
What would have happened to them, they and the extreme divisive issues would have become orphans,
So when issue showed signs of being peacefully resolved by SC n society at large,
Won’t let peace happen, going for the jugular, n bombard the whole nation with hate, divide it, cut it up, weakened against enemies, what do they care
after all that would've also meant that the Temple would have been controlled by the moderate religious servers, n not us, the rightful masters of all of this religion
And have to grab power righteously deserved by any means available, even if it means abusing the Gods, after all its his rule, his people we would lorded over on God's behalf
NEEDLESS 2 SAY, THE OTHER GROUPS CAN'T BE ABSOLVED OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE UNNECESSARY, COUNTER PRODUCTIVE DIVIDES
You are taling about the future, but also confront the past associated with the site
This site was used as a bully uses issues to demand obeisance from others
A macho problem, like many assaulted Indians/Pakistanis abroad have experienced, as have very very many wives, victims of domestic violence around the world
To make me feel important, resurgent, others in smaller numbers have to bow down n admit me as superior, equal rights are outta the question
N that’s how this site has been used, as a shortcut to power,
Spread hate against those who disagree to give you the temple
And make it a rallying point to gather huge numbers of the overwhelmingly majority community around you and then ascend to the rightfully yours, God given throne
If you don’t hand over the site, we will bash you up, spread hate against you and grab it by force
While a peaceful, Abu Simble like solution (UN sponsored translocation of a mammoth Ancient Egyptian monument from the nu Aswan Dam’s water reserve) could have been easily found,
If asked gently, with tehzeeb, n by all sides, not just the extremists who’ve always propagated hate against you
But that would not have suited the seekers of God granted power
N the issue would have just disappeared, as would have they, n their extreme views, as also any justification for LeT etc in India
What would have happened to them, they and the extreme divisive issues would have become orphans,
So when issue showed signs of being peacefully resolved by SC n society at large,
Won’t let peace happen, going for the jugular, n bombard the whole nation with hate, divide it, cut it up, weakened against enemies, what do they care
after all that would've also meant that the Temple would have been controlled by the moderate religious servers, n not us, the rightful masters of all of this religion
And have to grab power righteously deserved by any means available, even if it means abusing the Gods, after all its his rule, his people we would lorded over on God's behalf
NEEDLESS 2 SAY, THE OTHER GROUPS CAN'T BE ABSOLVED OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE UNNECESSARY, COUNTER PRODUCTIVE DIVIDES
Avtar Singh Chauha..
Wah ! Wah ! Great idea to serve the mankind : not Hindus,Muslims, Christians or Sikhs . Go ahead plz .
Anil Gudekar
Rename the Roads...etc as before independence............if u decide Hospital in that place.
Glo Peace
God, few of you guys could be under extremes' influences n pressures, it's sad to see the hate also amongst Sensible Indians
Muslims in India are the poorest, most discriminated against, the most vilified, the most hated, the most backward, most under represented in jobs in Govt as well as Pvt sectors, used as fodder for votes n to gain power at any costs
Even maybe more than the Dalits, whom at he end of it all, you say, OK, atleast they are from our religion n their great great great great great great great great grand father/uncle didn't destroy temples (no of greats random:)
(Another Gp of Talent, the Jews are still suffering because just one was killed over 2000 yrs ago, so not so unusual)
and you still think that they are treated as VIPs, etc, I am horrified by brains pressurized thus by some extremism, not that much diff than those under the spell of the Taliban, Al Queda, except you haven't been armed n trained with more dangerous weapons yet
Tragic, Reversing Agenda forced seems to be to become as bad as the worst of the Muslim Rulers
With minority bashing tendencies, change your names temp to a Muslim, (the faces of both Hindus n Muslims are all the same anyways) n then enjoy the discriminations, attitudes towards you, try getting a job, renting a house, even simple conversations etc, etc, all because of attitudes n propaganda like you seemed to just be maybe giving an example of - n imbibed
Eyes, minds not wide open, under the influence of speeches, exaggerated info n even false for Power Plays,
everybody makes bad judgments
n inspite of all this the Indian Muslims are a pride for nation, just as Hindus n others, one of the most talented group of world's people inspite of much lesser modern ed enabled, a beacon of pure enlightened Islam for all of the Muslim n entire World,
outta the spell of the extremists, n enjoy even more humane, obviously v knowledgeable people, it's ezy doable
COnfront the hate, why is it there, how can I fix it, what will fix it?
ATB
PS: am a Hindu
KS consider toning down, otherwise fewer will ever read
Muslims in India are the poorest, most discriminated against, the most vilified, the most hated, the most backward, most under represented in jobs in Govt as well as Pvt sectors, used as fodder for votes n to gain power at any costs
Even maybe more than the Dalits, whom at he end of it all, you say, OK, atleast they are from our religion n their great great great great great great great great grand father/uncle didn't destroy temples (no of greats random:)
(Another Gp of Talent, the Jews are still suffering because just one was killed over 2000 yrs ago, so not so unusual)
and you still think that they are treated as VIPs, etc, I am horrified by brains pressurized thus by some extremism, not that much diff than those under the spell of the Taliban, Al Queda, except you haven't been armed n trained with more dangerous weapons yet
Tragic, Reversing Agenda forced seems to be to become as bad as the worst of the Muslim Rulers
With minority bashing tendencies, change your names temp to a Muslim, (the faces of both Hindus n Muslims are all the same anyways) n then enjoy the discriminations, attitudes towards you, try getting a job, renting a house, even simple conversations etc, etc, all because of attitudes n propaganda like you seemed to just be maybe giving an example of - n imbibed
Eyes, minds not wide open, under the influence of speeches, exaggerated info n even false for Power Plays,
everybody makes bad judgments
n inspite of all this the Indian Muslims are a pride for nation, just as Hindus n others, one of the most talented group of world's people inspite of much lesser modern ed enabled, a beacon of pure enlightened Islam for all of the Muslim n entire World,
outta the spell of the extremists, n enjoy even more humane, obviously v knowledgeable people, it's ezy doable
COnfront the hate, why is it there, how can I fix it, what will fix it?
ATB
PS: am a Hindu
KS consider toning down, otherwise fewer will ever read
Rajinder Katoch Muslims in India and elsewhere are going to be in the same fate today or tomorrow because go and peep into every normal muslim family, you will find minimum 5 children. Pakistan and Bangladelsh are more populated densily and muslims in India are growing at a rapid pace of 30% annually. Are Hindus telling muslims to release a filmevery year. Or pakistan and bangladesh are populated because of Hindus? Or hindus have migrated to B'desh or Pakistan like we have 3 crores bangladesh who are here to change the demography of India. I feel many fool on the message board is given opportunity to express their ideas. First know yourself. First learn to express yourself.
Bhanu Negi
So many views come,some make it issue of hindu muslim.i say u should good human being 2 know Ram or Allah.
Name javed akhter rwrite definition of ram as; Shanti mai RAM hai pragati mai ram hai ;
RAm to bhakto nahi shatru ki chintan mai hai
dekh ravan pap tajke Ram tere mann hai.
So this is not better defination of Ram.
I would like 2 say mr katoch that i m not influence by movie , i never watch rag de basanti,this is my feeling i feel pitty when people died through starvation & we talk about religon.I feel that time why we fight for past lets make our future better.
Some politician make us fool on the name of GOD, cast,despite our religion we cheated by them.
Ya i also think reservation or specail facility 2 a particular religon bad, but solving big problem like BAbri need middle path.
Name javed akhter rwrite definition of ram as; Shanti mai RAM hai pragati mai ram hai ;
RAm to bhakto nahi shatru ki chintan mai hai
dekh ravan pap tajke Ram tere mann hai.
So this is not better defination of Ram.
I would like 2 say mr katoch that i m not influence by movie , i never watch rag de basanti,this is my feeling i feel pitty when people died through starvation & we talk about religon.I feel that time why we fight for past lets make our future better.
Some politician make us fool on the name of GOD, cast,despite our religion we cheated by them.
Ya i also think reservation or specail facility 2 a particular religon bad, but solving big problem like BAbri need middle path.
Aniruddha Vaidya Well, even if you call by any name to the supreme one, history can't be changed and truth is always truth. If someone destroyed temple, and built masjid there, its wrong deed.
If in good faith it should be removed, it should be removed and the original temple should be restructured there.
If someone destroys masjid and builds temple there, I would say temple should go down and moscue should be rebuilt
Truth is always bitter.
If in good faith it should be removed, it should be removed and the original temple should be restructured there.
If someone destroys masjid and builds temple there, I would say temple should go down and moscue should be rebuilt
Truth is always bitter.
Mudit Mathur
this is a very good suggestion to build a hospital at the babri site.
or for that matter a stadium could be built. destruction of any monument of historical importance is shameful. someday someone would break gateway of india saying that it was built in honour of a British king. all this is done to gain cheap publicity.
or for that matter a stadium could be built. destruction of any monument of historical importance is shameful. someday someone would break gateway of india saying that it was built in honour of a British king. all this is done to gain cheap publicity.
Keizer Soze
Beta Navin Bhansali, you cant bury an Indian army National Rifles' counter insurgency paracommando, many militants both Paki and Kashmiri, JEM ,LET etc have tried, so far my body count is over 90 and rising and all in just 3 short years, at 24 i am Indian Army's Elite. The kinda force that protects your worthless a** regardless of your being hindu, muslim or christian. With my training I can bury you with my testicles. so give respect, i earned it.
Now Rajinder, i feel ashamed to hear comments like this from a 44 year old man. I personally dont like religious contexts because they are full of religious nut jobs, if you are indeed speaking religious fairness, the Hindu religion is a disgrace they gave birth to more than half the problems in the country. the concept of dowry, child marraige, caste system all Hindu concepts and now the basic core problems in this country all of because of which a majority of the nation cant practice gender equality, there is no dignity of labour and in many backward areas of the country even child marraiges, modern day slavery, dowry, Hindu's can marry their cousins which by the way is incest etc. You pray to cows with so much respect that they are part of the road traffic, so are rats. There are no problems with muslims, they do their work, mind their business and a very very rare few of them are engaged in terror activities. Everyone here has weird concepts of religion, i urge you all to spend some time in the army, where i as a christian do visit, gurudwaras, temples and mosques, before going on any mission we call on all the gods before we go. If Ram temple has to be built well, you dont have to demolish a mosque to do it, just build a temple right next to it and while we're at it build a church, a buddist temple, a gurudwara etc. why not. Whats so special about Ram? Why is it that you trust muslims more than Christians. From Abdul Kalam to Mother Teresa, they have all gained mass salutations from people all across the world, what is your problem with them? I never heard of a Hindu preacher or temple who is so generous and caring that he/she picked up the utterly down troden people in a city and genuinely cared for them by providing shelter, food. Matter of fact when was the last time you as a Hindu honestly and altruistically did anything for your country or neighbourhood. Christians and burddists are the most peaceful minorities in the country so dont bother mentioning them. When you dont have Ram in your heart, how does it matter if you have him in a temple? You worship and bow down to idols of stone and yet infront of the same 'god' will take a bribe without flinching an eye. If at all there is a God, there is only place place he will feel at truly home and thats in your heart and not in a temple. We only need temples, churches, mosques only to involve ourselves as a community to offer prayers together in 'place of worship'. Do you think Ram who is god incarnate would be happy or jealous of seeing a mosque in a location where a temple in his name existed? dont you think Ram as God would be happy to see a mosque and a temple togther, do you think Ram and Allah are enemies or The same God with many names. In my counter insurgency team i am called as the Arc angel, at home my mom calls me 'Tinku', my real name is Immanuel, my friends call me 'Eman' in short, some call me John, when i can have 4 to 5 names, How many names should God, the creater of this and all the universes have? Why is it hard for you to just accept that your 'Ram' is someone else's Allah or another person's 'Jesus'? The problem with this country is the educated folk like you having such a biased and messed up meaning of 'God'. This is an insult to 'God' in all his/her forms. Your a disgrace to humanity and God's creation but i have no other option but to accept you because apparently God even creates the idiots so that the few good people look around them; feel good about themselves and realise the meaning of being part of a society.
Sometimes i wonder which country were you born in, coz the country i was born in, i celebrate Diwali with just as much spirit as Christmas or Eid. The only ultra patriotic Indians are in the Indian army, navy, airforce where we through extensive training, hardships, meditation, understanding; earn the right to fight and die for our country together ir-respective of our religion.
Now Rajinder, i feel ashamed to hear comments like this from a 44 year old man. I personally dont like religious contexts because they are full of religious nut jobs, if you are indeed speaking religious fairness, the Hindu religion is a disgrace they gave birth to more than half the problems in the country. the concept of dowry, child marraige, caste system all Hindu concepts and now the basic core problems in this country all of because of which a majority of the nation cant practice gender equality, there is no dignity of labour and in many backward areas of the country even child marraiges, modern day slavery, dowry, Hindu's can marry their cousins which by the way is incest etc. You pray to cows with so much respect that they are part of the road traffic, so are rats. There are no problems with muslims, they do their work, mind their business and a very very rare few of them are engaged in terror activities. Everyone here has weird concepts of religion, i urge you all to spend some time in the army, where i as a christian do visit, gurudwaras, temples and mosques, before going on any mission we call on all the gods before we go. If Ram temple has to be built well, you dont have to demolish a mosque to do it, just build a temple right next to it and while we're at it build a church, a buddist temple, a gurudwara etc. why not. Whats so special about Ram? Why is it that you trust muslims more than Christians. From Abdul Kalam to Mother Teresa, they have all gained mass salutations from people all across the world, what is your problem with them? I never heard of a Hindu preacher or temple who is so generous and caring that he/she picked up the utterly down troden people in a city and genuinely cared for them by providing shelter, food. Matter of fact when was the last time you as a Hindu honestly and altruistically did anything for your country or neighbourhood. Christians and burddists are the most peaceful minorities in the country so dont bother mentioning them. When you dont have Ram in your heart, how does it matter if you have him in a temple? You worship and bow down to idols of stone and yet infront of the same 'god' will take a bribe without flinching an eye. If at all there is a God, there is only place place he will feel at truly home and thats in your heart and not in a temple. We only need temples, churches, mosques only to involve ourselves as a community to offer prayers together in 'place of worship'. Do you think Ram who is god incarnate would be happy or jealous of seeing a mosque in a location where a temple in his name existed? dont you think Ram as God would be happy to see a mosque and a temple togther, do you think Ram and Allah are enemies or The same God with many names. In my counter insurgency team i am called as the Arc angel, at home my mom calls me 'Tinku', my real name is Immanuel, my friends call me 'Eman' in short, some call me John, when i can have 4 to 5 names, How many names should God, the creater of this and all the universes have? Why is it hard for you to just accept that your 'Ram' is someone else's Allah or another person's 'Jesus'? The problem with this country is the educated folk like you having such a biased and messed up meaning of 'God'. This is an insult to 'God' in all his/her forms. Your a disgrace to humanity and God's creation but i have no other option but to accept you because apparently God even creates the idiots so that the few good people look around them; feel good about themselves and realise the meaning of being part of a society.
Sometimes i wonder which country were you born in, coz the country i was born in, i celebrate Diwali with just as much spirit as Christmas or Eid. The only ultra patriotic Indians are in the Indian army, navy, airforce where we through extensive training, hardships, meditation, understanding; earn the right to fight and die for our country together ir-respective of our religion.
Aniruddha Vaidya So dear, this is what Army teach you? The language that you are using , it looks like you are bragging yourself for being armyman ...
Navin Bhansali Why are you so arrogant and forcing your opinion....?? Well, everyone has his/her opinion and I feel we should not rebuke other's opinion. You being an army elite is a respectful job and I salute them for trying their best to maintain law and order in our country. But that doesnot make you a person who can kill any minister. Regarding what happened to Babri is highly condemnable but that site holds the sentiments of a lot of religious beliefs be it Hindu/ Muslim. Well, I am not a religious person but it is about respect that we give to all religion and sects in our country. India is known for this and that is why with so many poblems like poverty, illiteracy, corruption India is still functioning and emerging as a powerful nation. Many scholar call it as a miracle as if God has a special place in His/Her heart for India. But we know it is because of our cultural diversity and unity among all sects of religion and culture that is helping India grow. Some elements always try to disturb this unity and result into communal violence but when we realize we unite again. We have learned from the past mistakes. Isn't it? Killing some one will not help... we need to kill the blady mindsets and treat humanity as the most imp religion of all religions. Moreover, if you talk about bjp and rss who were involved in those henious crime... why forget congress who did the almost equal job in 1984 termed as anti-sikh riot. So, hang every one. Right?
Rajinder Katoch
Let me say here that I trust muslims more than christians and I am for a total pre 1947 type brotherhood between hindus and muslims. But, that will only happen, if muslims who know that they are treated like VIPs in this country should show some respect to Hindus and themselves come forward and help in making Ram temple. Syed Shabuddin a known UP muslim leaders once said if today we allow construction of Ram temple, there are 3,000 mosques built on temples, they will also go. No, we are demanding only Ram temple as many great scholars of urdu called him the principal diety of Hindustan and there were coins during Akbar time. Guys the rule of King Akbar was better than today's congress which believe in printing cross behind coins instead of four lions emblem.
Think, which party created Pakistan, which forced hindus for 50 years that muslims are bad and now which party is benefitted with gulf among hindus and muslims.
Think, which party created Pakistan, which forced hindus for 50 years that muslims are bad and now which party is benefitted with gulf among hindus and muslims.
Rajinder Katoch
It is very surprising muslims shed crocodile tears for a structure called Babri Masjid. Let me tell you in Islam no mosque can be named after any person. Show me a mosque in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Saudi, UAE etc where mosque is named after a king. It was the ego of an invader who plundered wealth an destroyed temple that is what we had been taught post 1947 by this very Congress government politicians and historians. Now, if christians number increases and muslims and hindus numbers decrease, then tomorrow Congress may say let's make a church. Making a hospital or a library you need number one patients and readers. People in Ayodhya are dependent on Ayurvedic medicines and for that Baba Ramdev is already doing an excellent job. Allopaathic medicines cost money which the 40 years rule of congressin UP failed to upgrade the status of common man. The sadhus and hindi bashis of Ayodhya and surroundings will not read English books in library. So the idea of Library is also flop if only hindi books will be kept there.
Basically, it is the problem of hindu youths who are highly irresponsible, who get motivation from bollywood movies. If there is Rang de basanti everyone will say this is the right way. But, what happened in the end of the movie, Aamir and his friends died.
If hindus have to show their presence, they should understand the psychie of the people living in neighbouring countries. They should ready history and ask themselves why there was a pakistan carved out in 1947 and why muslims of Kashmir valley terrorised hindus, raped hindus and this migration from valley was in lakhs(6 lakhs accounted). Congrerss never welcome this idea of making film of Kashmir pandit. The crypto hindus, like Nandita Sen who is almost sister of Shabana makes Firaaq and everybody start talking about it. Hindus justice in this country are long pending. Start demanding justice otherwise, there is another Pakistan in waiting.
Basically, it is the problem of hindu youths who are highly irresponsible, who get motivation from bollywood movies. If there is Rang de basanti everyone will say this is the right way. But, what happened in the end of the movie, Aamir and his friends died.
If hindus have to show their presence, they should understand the psychie of the people living in neighbouring countries. They should ready history and ask themselves why there was a pakistan carved out in 1947 and why muslims of Kashmir valley terrorised hindus, raped hindus and this migration from valley was in lakhs(6 lakhs accounted). Congrerss never welcome this idea of making film of Kashmir pandit. The crypto hindus, like Nandita Sen who is almost sister of Shabana makes Firaaq and everybody start talking about it. Hindus justice in this country are long pending. Start demanding justice otherwise, there is another Pakistan in waiting.
Bishnu Modi
mandir should be built at ayodhya,kashi and mathura and for this if required constition of the country may be amended at the earliest and if delayed there may be more of such mis happenings-i fear-
Amit Trivedi
Please give me name of 5 countries in the world that do not have law in accordance with religious scriptures and have a majority of Muslim population. My count ends at 1- Turkey (forced by need of EU membership)
Amit Trivedi
Extending the given logic: We can do that for all places of worship across the globe. Religion shud be a personal affair. No religious building shud be allowed anywhere in the world. P.S. I am not a communist
Bhanu Negi
many of my friend said,gov will not agree some said this is under trail,should they think we always been as postman ,who deliver latter he did not any charm matter of post. so as we don't think like that ,do not say that why ? 1st thinking is comes than it devlop 2 theory.
Madhuri Khanduja
Well i must say this is a brilliant idea!!. After all this whole drama is because of that land. i appreciate that people have started thinking out of the box.
Great suggestion!
Great suggestion!
Pooja Srivastava
Really its a great suggestion of building Hospital.No other think would be better than this. School should not be build as many people died and shed their blood ther it gives negative wives also. We should end up this topic now by just finalizing one thing otherwise this issue is never ending and it will only be left as a political issue on every 6th Dec.
Rajinder Katoch
I am 44 years of age. From the very first day I encountered the history subject, I was taught in school, muslims are bad and Ram temple was discreted by Babar. Today, the population of muslims have grown many fold and Congress is now wooing muslims so such ideas. Congress want to build Ram temple but not at Ayodhya.
If somebody is keen to build hospital or library, contribute and build, I am not stopping. UP needs many hospital. But the fact of the matter is medicines have some cost and they are available when money is paid. People today do not want to pay for god or their health. They do not keep hygenic conditions in and around the place they live and when they get sick, they land in AIIMS.
It is very surprising, hindus have no sense of politics. They can be directed to any new side by Aamir Khan Rang de Basanti. I agree that muslims and hindus should live like brothers. But, is it not a fact that muslims in Pakistans and Bangladesh hate Hindus. They have infact K for Kafir in their school books. People who have worked in Saudi or UAE know what is the psychie of muslims. It is because of majority hindu community that India is not bombarded like Pakistan and Afganistan. The day this country will be muslim dominated country, this country will also become hell like Pakistan. What does this indicate, just think about it. Hindus show generiosity but does that has any value? Jews were killed everywhere in the world, but not in India, why? Because majority community is Hindu and I am proud of it. I think we are not demanding temples on every mosques. Whereas this is a fact that muslim invaders killed 10 crores hindus in 700 years and we should go friendly with them. Is it so easy? After giving Pakistan and getting kicked in Kashmir, the eyes of hindus youths is still close. I am trying to wake who want to sleep. Please...
If somebody is keen to build hospital or library, contribute and build, I am not stopping. UP needs many hospital. But the fact of the matter is medicines have some cost and they are available when money is paid. People today do not want to pay for god or their health. They do not keep hygenic conditions in and around the place they live and when they get sick, they land in AIIMS.
It is very surprising, hindus have no sense of politics. They can be directed to any new side by Aamir Khan Rang de Basanti. I agree that muslims and hindus should live like brothers. But, is it not a fact that muslims in Pakistans and Bangladesh hate Hindus. They have infact K for Kafir in their school books. People who have worked in Saudi or UAE know what is the psychie of muslims. It is because of majority hindu community that India is not bombarded like Pakistan and Afganistan. The day this country will be muslim dominated country, this country will also become hell like Pakistan. What does this indicate, just think about it. Hindus show generiosity but does that has any value? Jews were killed everywhere in the world, but not in India, why? Because majority community is Hindu and I am proud of it. I think we are not demanding temples on every mosques. Whereas this is a fact that muslim invaders killed 10 crores hindus in 700 years and we should go friendly with them. Is it so easy? After giving Pakistan and getting kicked in Kashmir, the eyes of hindus youths is still close. I am trying to wake who want to sleep. Please...
Pallavi Agrawal well xpressed thoughts...
Navin Bhansali Well said. I agree with you to some extent.
Keizer Soze
well first put all BJP, RSS and anyother 'chutiya' leaders in prision and beat them to pulp, then build a temple, a church, a mosque, a buddist monastary, a sikh gurudwara, a jewish synagog and a jain temple, all on the same site and lets turn it into a world heritage site and bury all the BJP, RSS and other leaders involved in the scam across the site in a house of shame.
Navin Bhansali rather burying you is better for India as a whole.
Shams Sherwani
Much has been said & shall conlinue... nothing will practically be achieved till all hearts are purged off haterad and malice.Make a mandir or a masjid, but can we really capture the hearts and regain the drowned away love towards each others... only time to tell...
Surendra Kamath
no i dont think a hospital should be built at the site. considering the sensitivity of the issue, either a temple or a mosque existed at the place. and neither community thus is going to agree to build a hospital over the structure. moreover any hospital to be built will probably be by the government which means more corruption and more politics. in my opinion the best way forward is to completely ignore the issue. it is because politicians feel that they can whip up the passion of the populace that this issue is alive. so ignore it for ever.
Mohammed Sally Maj..
Probably a memorial to the victims of communal riot and terrorist acts following the demolition of the Babri Masjid and the hate that ensured amongst both the majority and minority communities.
Shyam Agarwal
I appreciate Idea to have a big hospital or Educational Institute or any other which can be of use to society. Huge money collected is going waste without utilization. Secondly neither BJP nor VISHWA HINDU PARISHAD NOR RSS NOR ANY MUSLIM ORGANISATION ARE INTERSTED IN THIS ISSUE THEY SIMPLY WANT TO KEEP THIS ISSUE ALIVE FOR THEIR POLITICAL GAIN. NEITHER YOUNG GENERATION IS INTERESTED IN THESE ISSUES. THEY WANT BETTER JOBS ETC. IF THE MONEY CAN BE USED TO SOLVE SOME ECONOMIC PROBLEM THEN IS GOOD.
IT IS FACT THAT YOUNG GENERATION CONSTITUTE MORE THEN 45% OF VOTES IN INDIA.
SATYA VEER SAKSENA
IT IS FACT THAT YOUNG GENERATION CONSTITUTE MORE THEN 45% OF VOTES IN INDIA.
SATYA VEER SAKSENA
Ahmad Zahir Khan
I did mentioned before why not a library , as all religions stress on KNOWLEDGE , let all faiths books and research material found in this library so that understanding religions comes to mind , whether religions are asking us to cut each other throats or live in peace and harmony .
Khan Mohammad
Dear Bhanu, I appreciate your gesture, but I totally disagree with it, because that would serve as a precedence for places of worship being changed to that of public utilities at the sweet will of politicians or pressure groups. The matter is subjudice and we all should wait patiently for the verdict and keep wild emotions harnessed. The judgement whatsoever it may be when it comes must be followed with earnest and justice be delivered once for all.May God bless us all.
Shyam Agarwal I DO NOT KNOW YOUR AGE. YOU KNOW ABOUT INDIAN JUDICIARY. THE JUDGEMENT WILL NOT COME SO EARLY. BECAUSE NOETHER GOVT. NOR BJP nor RSS nor VHP nor any Muslim organisations are interested to solve this issue. They want to keep it alive and shout on every 6th. Dec. for the sake of their vote banks.
Haith in religion is one thing and show that I am religious is another think.
SATYA VEER SAKSENA
Haith in religion is one thing and show that I am religious is another think.
SATYA VEER SAKSENA
Ahmad Zahir Khan
NEW SITE AT BABRI ENCLAVE
I for one go for building a LIBRARY consiting the books on ALL WORLD FATHS and other subjects so that STUDENTS can LEARN as all FAITHS stress on KNOWLEDGE and preach for beterment of humanity , why then faiths are misunderstood and becoming cause of conflict instead of confidence in LOVE AND PEACE
I for one go for building a LIBRARY consiting the books on ALL WORLD FATHS and other subjects so that STUDENTS can LEARN as all FAITHS stress on KNOWLEDGE and preach for beterment of humanity , why then faiths are misunderstood and becoming cause of conflict instead of confidence in LOVE AND PEACE
Sach Ka Samna
Muslims should build biggest Ram temple ever there, and Hindus should return favour by building equally bigger Mosque nearby. Hence, both respect brotherhood and will act as a symbol for centuries. Why not, muslims dont believe in deities and Hindus have so many gods, allah is one of them..there you go..if not then ban practice of both religions to avoid futher human suffering in India. Goverment is weak, if one government acts rationally then many people in future can avoid conflit
Glo Peace
well whatever you guys eventually end up creating at the site, do include a large beautifully landscaped garden, with symbols, sculptures, designs etc from all the world's religions
where plant n nurture a thus marked sapling to tree each for all the victims of all religions of riots in India right since 1946,
or transplanted from construction sites
you’ll earn carbon credits on it too :)
You could also consider landscaping, designing diff (equal) parts of this garden in styles from diff cultures, religions, history, civilizations, of diff groups of people:
Chose from - Ancient Egyptian, Babylonian, of Minoan, Indus Valley, Vedic, Chinese Various, Ancient Greek, Maurya, Kalinga, Roman, Persian Achaemenian, Indian Tribal, Jain Kingdoms, South Indian Kingdoms, Cholas, Pallavas, Vijayanagra, Hoysalas; Khmer, Mayan, Aztec, Korean Three Kingdoms, Assam Ahom, Rajput, Maratha, Gujarat, Sikh Ranjit Singh, Safavids, Persian Mughal, Ottoman, Buddhist, Japanese Zen, Renaissance European, Christian, French, Russian Romanov, African Tribal Kingdoms, Pacific Tribal…
Or you could confine it to the diverse Indian, South Asian styles, cultures, religions, Blending Enhancing OnTo Each Other Historic, Present n Future Periods, removing poverty n hate swifter
where plant n nurture a thus marked sapling to tree each for all the victims of all religions of riots in India right since 1946,
or transplanted from construction sites
you’ll earn carbon credits on it too :)
You could also consider landscaping, designing diff (equal) parts of this garden in styles from diff cultures, religions, history, civilizations, of diff groups of people:
Chose from - Ancient Egyptian, Babylonian, of Minoan, Indus Valley, Vedic, Chinese Various, Ancient Greek, Maurya, Kalinga, Roman, Persian Achaemenian, Indian Tribal, Jain Kingdoms, South Indian Kingdoms, Cholas, Pallavas, Vijayanagra, Hoysalas; Khmer, Mayan, Aztec, Korean Three Kingdoms, Assam Ahom, Rajput, Maratha, Gujarat, Sikh Ranjit Singh, Safavids, Persian Mughal, Ottoman, Buddhist, Japanese Zen, Renaissance European, Christian, French, Russian Romanov, African Tribal Kingdoms, Pacific Tribal…
Or you could confine it to the diverse Indian, South Asian styles, cultures, religions, Blending Enhancing OnTo Each Other Historic, Present n Future Periods, removing poverty n hate swifter
Lakshya Chandrana ..
Yes, this is a great suggestion! I think nothing can be better than a secular noble cause which will benefit all faiths equally. Great idea, Bhanu!
Shyam Agarwal Mr. BHANUYOU ARE ABSOLUTLY RIGHT BECAUSE MOST OF THE EDUCATED PEOPLE IN INDIA SHOW THAT THEY ARE RELIGIOUS> IT IS ALL FALSE. I AM A TEACHER AND IN CORRIDOR OF MY SCHOOL I FOUND A WEDDING CARD WITH EMBLEM OF GANESH AND PARWATI ON FLOOR. THIS SCHOOL IS OF HINDU MAJORITY BUT NONE TRIED TO KEEP IT ON SAFE PLACE OR ASK THE PERSON TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED TO KEEP IT SAFE. I SAW HANUMAN CHAAP CRACKERS AND MANY MORE. FROM WHERE WE ARE HINDUS. THESE RELIGIOUS POLITICAL ORGANISATIONS WANT TO KEEP SUCH ISSUES ALIVE AND SHOUT IN PARLIAMENT ON EVERY 6th DEC. and the forget.
Who is caring for those who were killed in that demolition. Did any body know their name and pay homage.
ALL PROPAGANDA nothing else. These political leaders should be taught accordingly
SATYA VEER SAKSENA
Who is caring for those who were killed in that demolition. Did any body know their name and pay homage.
ALL PROPAGANDA nothing else. These political leaders should be taught accordingly
SATYA VEER SAKSENA
Shanthi Venugopal Yes, I would like to second that. Good thinking!
Richard Dias
It is one of the nicest suggestion ever to appear. However, how can expect our patriotic party to agree to this proposal?
Aniruddha Vaidya Nicest? What about some sentiments being hurt? Is there no other land to have the hospital?
Latika Mahajan I don't think it will be too difficult to get the govt to agree on this. Maybe if a few citizens like us pit together a petition, they may hear us out.
Shailendra Kadam
Why only hospital and not something else?
It seems you do not empathise with either the Muslims or the Hindus. Muslims would never like to forget the concessions they enjoy in India for being Muslim, all becase kind courtesey of Late Mr.Babar. And Hindus would not like to have anything else over their except a temple. To them both places are holy. And no one likes to shit in a holy place. So if you build a hospital over there it is sure going to have life saving theatres but it will also have toilets as all hospitals have and this would hurt the sentiments of these concerned Hindus and Muslims. Instead they should build a nuclear reactor for peaceful purposes over there. And Pakistan may never attach the nuclear reactor over there as it is a holy place for Muslims.
It seems you do not empathise with either the Muslims or the Hindus. Muslims would never like to forget the concessions they enjoy in India for being Muslim, all becase kind courtesey of Late Mr.Babar. And Hindus would not like to have anything else over their except a temple. To them both places are holy. And no one likes to shit in a holy place. So if you build a hospital over there it is sure going to have life saving theatres but it will also have toilets as all hospitals have and this would hurt the sentiments of these concerned Hindus and Muslims. Instead they should build a nuclear reactor for peaceful purposes over there. And Pakistan may never attach the nuclear reactor over there as it is a holy place for Muslims.
Prats Jindal @Shailendra: I think the suggestion of a hospital is just one example that Bhanu has taken. It could also be a school, basically anything that serves the greater common good. Your idea of a nuclear reactor is also not a bad idea, but it will require much work.
Bhanu Negi
My one friend is very religious, all the time remember GOD, use picture of god in vollet,at home ,in work place, but not as screen saver of laptopp & computer .
1 day iask ,resaon, he said ,yaar bettry pe load padata hai.Today i remember it because i think if one person not use god picture for mobile & laptop,just for worth Rs 800-2000.so why did not we forget what is babri origanly mandir or masjid.For the sake of billion indian.
Though as much as i know RAMA story he himself give this land for social cause.Surely he feel proud . good use of his birth place.
People say only BJP took advantage of this incident this is not right all the party use it equally. If only party has will power 2 solve this problem can solve, but they want 2 make it a movie in which black side of a character picturied 2 make other larger than life.
1 day iask ,resaon, he said ,yaar bettry pe load padata hai.Today i remember it because i think if one person not use god picture for mobile & laptop,just for worth Rs 800-2000.so why did not we forget what is babri origanly mandir or masjid.For the sake of billion indian.
Though as much as i know RAMA story he himself give this land for social cause.Surely he feel proud . good use of his birth place.
People say only BJP took advantage of this incident this is not right all the party use it equally. If only party has will power 2 solve this problem can solve, but they want 2 make it a movie in which black side of a character picturied 2 make other larger than life.
Shyam Agarwal YOU ARE ABSOLUTLY LIKE BECAUSE MOST OF THE EDUCATED PEOPLE IN INDIA SHOW THAT THEY ARE RELIGIOUS> IT IS ALL FALSE. I AM A TEACHER AND IN CORRIDOR OF MY SCHOOL I FOUND A WEDDING CARD WITH EMBLEM OF GANESH AND PARWATI ON FLOOR. THIS SCHOOL IS OF HINDU MAJORITY BUT NONE TRIED TO KEEP IT ON SAFE PLACE OR ASK THE PERSON TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED TO KEEP IT SAFE. I SAW HANUMAN CHAAP CRACKERS AND MANY MORE. FROM WHERE WE ARE HINDUS. THESE RELIGIOUS POLITICAL ORGANISATIONS WANT TO KEEP SUCH ISSUES ALIVE AND SHOUT IN PARLIAMENT ON EVERY 6th DEC. and the forget.
Who is caring for those who were killed in that demolition. Did any body know their name and pay homage.
ALL PROPAGANDA nothing else. These political leaders should be taught accordingly
SATYA VEER SAKSENA
Who is caring for those who were killed in that demolition. Did any body know their name and pay homage.
ALL PROPAGANDA nothing else. These political leaders should be taught accordingly
SATYA VEER SAKSENA
Aman Aggarwal @Bhanu: I personally think that God is on our hearts; different people have different ways of praising him. They may choose to carry Him in their pockets or their computers. Or they may not carry Him anywhere at all! As long as they have faith in Him
& do the right thing, all this is immaterial, according to me.
& do the right thing, all this is immaterial, according to me.
